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#1 necaremus

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:20 AM

ok... you got lvl 2, lee sin still lvl 1.
you exhaust him and go balls...

you die, couse u cant outdmg lee sin, even if you lvl 2 and he lvl 1.

how do you beat him?

(didn't found a single champ, who can outdmg lee sin lvl 2, if lee is still lvl 1... srsly)
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#2 No Promises

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:32 AM

Nocturne can. If he's still winning, might be due to runes. Gotta depend on his and your items as well.

As it is, it's still too vague for people to tell you anything concrete.
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#3 Lachrymose

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:10 AM

twitch
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#4 Why So Seerious

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:27 AM

a ward and a "hi lee" in chat usually defeats him until you can get some farm.

once your farmed and his ganks have failed time and time again you can crush him easily.

OR you can just die to the level 2 gank and be like "sure, have that kill bro... you need it" and then kill him ^_^ up to you
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#5 Sindori

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 11:04 PM

Lee vs Sona =Sona Win ;) nö srsly nerf leesin -.-
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Posted 13 October 2011 - 11:25 PM

twitch


No.

Ban him.
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#7 Sindori

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 12:26 AM

No.

Ban him.


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#8 No Promises

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 04:28 AM

Why twitch tho?
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Posted 14 October 2011 - 04:52 AM

Why twitch tho?


Inherent trolling as Lee counters stealth.
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#10 Lachrymose

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:57 AM

??? wtf is wrong with u ppl? what are we talking bout here?

(didn't found a single champ, who can outdmg lee sin lvl 2, if lee is still lvl 1... srsly)


why can't a lv 2 twitch a lv 1 lee? we aint talking ganks if i read the post correctly.

Inherent trolling as Lee counters stealth.


trollin? no sir im not. i dont really get what u say tbh. i dont plan on running away with my stealth, nor do i see anyhow stealth can deal any damage. lol too funny

what? not satisfied? throw ur arguments here. pfft
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#11 necaremus

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:13 AM

lee sin lvl 1 dmg:

Q = base dmg, 2* 100% AD, % missing health, 4 attacks with 50% AS, free blink, low CD
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#12 Lachrymose

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:21 AM

lee sin lvl 1 dmg:

Q = base dmg, 2* 100% AD, % missing health, 4 attacks with 50% AS, free blink, low CD


im aware of that. ur point?
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#13 Lachrymose

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:50 AM

update: i just tested lv 1 twitch vs lv 1 lee.

here are my findings:
if lee lv up E i lose automatically.
1 hp pot can srsly decide who will win. elixir + pot ftw
w/o any crits twitch will win with less than 2 digits hp, given both run doran blade and exhaust ignite.
too lazy to compare runes and masteries.
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#14 No Promises

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 09:47 AM

At the very least, twitch isn't a hard counter. Don't think anyone is tho. Jax's high burst might do the trick. By the time the lee sin begins to fight back, the balance might have been tilted too far in jax's favour already.

Vayne could survive and even kill if played right. If he uses Q on you, condemn him back. If you can, manipulate your positioning so that you can condemn him to a wall = bonus. Might even land you a kill. Of course, it's not easy but condemn should help you nonetheless.
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#15 Lachrymose

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:39 PM

hey im just answering the topic: who can outdmg lee sin.

not saying counter or anything >.>
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:12 PM

Garen shits on everyone at level1
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:40 PM

If its a who can out damage, lots can. But if it is a 1v1 fight, not a lot can win. He is just a great 1v1 with the shield/life steal/armor buff and his E which slows attack speed. He can fight pretty much any melee carry and win, or any ranged with his Q.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 01:28 AM

Yeah like what Kanova said, we should look at it at not just out-damaging but also out sustaining.

It's lee sin's sustain that allows him to win prolonged 1 v 1 fights.

EvilASD's suggestion of garen COULD work. If anyone's tried it before, do let us know how it goes.

Although it's not my thread, I'm starting to get interested in beating lee sin too. xD
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#19 Lachrymose

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 01:33 AM

i did tested 1 v 1 to the death. and remember, it's lv 2 any champ vs lv 1 lee sin.
what i did was lv 1 twitch vs lv 1 lee sin. and i win that. close.
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