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#1 Dr.Ali

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:41 PM

Everyone knows the situation a good Fizz is doninating u. What to do? Who to pick against him?
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:44 PM

Malzahar, just dont die till lvl 6. Build a bit tanky, lock him down and your teammates will finish him.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:45 PM

Ryze

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:48 PM

Keep your distance, any champs with long spells are good.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:31 PM

Morde huehuehue
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#6 VN Minimax

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:12 PM

morde beats him really hard.... just max qw and leave e level 1.

edit - malz IS a counter, because of the ranged silence and his autofarm on malefic visions.

Ryze on the other hand is countered by fizz, since fizz's dash is longer range than ryze's root, you just end up rooting him in autoattack range of you and harassed down... if you manage to get some really heavy early harass and zone him a bit, you can still win the lane, but it's one of ryze's hardest fights. (i'd rather be fighting karth, leb, sora, or cass as ryze than fizz)
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:16 PM

leblanc, if you're experienced enough to bait him into using his E.

furthermore a safe farm champ like galio or morgana, or even sion, is much stronger mid to late game, where fizz falls off
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:19 PM

ChampionSelect - Fizz
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:21 PM

Ryze.... Morde is good,... maybe sion... any champ that can absorb some poke.

The main playstyle fizz players have is

1. Poke with WQ, then either keep poking or jump out with E. which wins trades HARD against most champions
2. When the enemy is low, land R and QWE Ignite for the maximum instagib.
3. Rinse and repeat.

Fizz is countered hard by Ryze because ryze can keep his distance from fizz, also i think galio can hold lane....
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:25 PM

ryze CANNOT keep his distance.... cast time on q lets him dash and his dash outranges rune prison. from levels 5 to ~14 fizz shits all over ryzes bed.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:29 PM

ryze CANNOT keep his distance.... cast time on q lets him dash and his dash outranges rune prison. from levels 5 to ~14 fizz shits all over ryzes bed.

He can - Overload 650 range (free harass), Rune Prison 625 range. Urchin Strike has a range of 550. No.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:29 PM

ryze CANNOT keep his distance.... cast time on q lets him dash and his dash outranges rune prison. from levels 5 to ~14 fizz shits all over ryzes bed.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:07 PM

Fizz have a difficult time early game to far, harass, etc... So technically, he is king of countered by all champions with huge harass/damage potential early on, like Cassiopeia, or...Ryze :D A good Ryze is a very good counter to Fizz, he can spam Q from safe distance, and cage him with W when Fizz rush.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:13 PM

Fizz have a difficult time early game to far, harass, etc... So technically, he is king of countered by all champions with huge harass/damage potential early on, like Cassiopeia, or...Ryze :D A good Ryze is a very good counter to Fizz, he can spam Q from safe distance, and cage him with W when Fizz rush.



karth and cass CAN outrange him and harass. if you q or w as ryze, he'll already be in melee range doing his burst, then he'll hop away as you try to throw your second q... he wins this trade by ~70 damage which adds up. on the other hand, most fizz and ryze players will be reluctant to trade because the ryze knows fizz wins the trade if he plays it right and fizz knows that trading in such a way makes him very vulnerable to ganks. It usually ends up a farm lane.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:01 PM

karth and cass CAN outrange him and harass. if you q or w as ryze, he'll already be in melee range doing his burst, then he'll hop away as you try to throw your second q... he wins this trade by ~70 damage which adds up. on the other hand, most fizz and ryze players will be reluctant to trade because the ryze knows fizz wins the trade if he plays it right and fizz knows that trading in such a way makes him very vulnerable to ganks. It usually ends up a
farm lane.


Someone doesn't know how to play ryze...
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:31 PM

100 range is closable by boots before the cast animation is done
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#17 Dominus Ensis

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:42 PM

Not if he's smartcasting prison the instant he throws q. No cast time on prison. Unless you troll poll in which case he can prison you the moment you come down.

Final note: without ult fizz CANNOT outtrade ryze. That cooldown shit he has lets him get in a lot more q's than you seem to think.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:51 PM

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 01:02 AM

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:54 AM

listen, i'll tell you because i've gone into practice games with friends and tried it over and over... w HAS a cast time and fizz can walk into dash range before he's trapped, at which point, he gets a half duration trap and is already in melee range. early and late ryze wins, but midgame he has to be really carefull about farming.
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