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#1 The Black Guy

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 04:48 AM

Anyone know why pro LoL teams dont play chansp like Sejuani, or fiora, i mean ive only watched a couple but i never see people picking some of these champs that are decent. Is it because the champs cant help up late or early game? Or is it just that the players dont know how to play them well
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:15 AM

It's because they're weaker than their counterparts in high elo play.

Sejuani is just a big pile of "meh".
Fiora gets shut down hard by good teams.

At tournament level play, games are largely won on team comps and champion selections as the skill gap isn't huge. Therefore, picking anything but the best champions is a huge mistake
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:17 AM

Sejuani is just outclassed by other tanks.

Fiora is like Yi, in that if she gets focussed down she dies. If shes left to kill people then she'll penta people. Pro teams wont let a fiora do that so isnt realy that viable.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:22 AM

It's because they're weaker than their counterparts in high elo play.

Sejuani is just a big pile of "meh".
Fiora gets shut down hard by good teams.

At tournament level play, games are largely won on team comps and champion selections as the skill gap isn't huge. Therefore, picking anything but the best champions is a huge mistake


Ooohh, ok that makes sense
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:51 AM

Why do you keep making such an excessive amount of threads...?
Are you just after post count or something?

You quote ENTIRE posts just to say "ok" or "win" or "lol" and it's pure spam.

You even answered your own goddamn question...

i never see people picking some of these champs that are decent

Why would you settle for decent when you know there's better...?
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:54 AM

Why do you keep making such an excessive amount of threads...?
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You quote ENTIRE posts just to say "ok" or "win" or "lol" and it's pure spam.


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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:57 AM

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:21 AM

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:10 AM

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 01:47 PM

Why do you keep making such an excessive amount of threads...?
Are you just after post count or something?

You quote ENTIRE posts just to say "ok" or "win" or "lol" and it's pure spam.

You even answered your own goddamn question...
Why would you settle for decent when you know there's better...?


Please, atleast this time lets try to keep it on topic, if theres a problem then PM me or something, thats wasent needed. Thx though. Guess ._.

Yea but we see people play corki when theres better chanps like vayne, or caitlyn to play, idk if thats because of strategy or because the othe team already picked a vayne or cait already.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:14 PM

Yea but we see people play corki when theres better chanps like vayne, or caitlyn to play


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........ I honestly do not know where you are going here. Caitlyn and Vayne are typically not thought of as top teir carries they have distinct weaknesses that make them less desireable. AD carry's job late game is to carry the game by doing alot of dmg so lets take a look at cait/vayne

Cait - Strong langer, long range BUT weak scaling, one of the worst dmg late game as a carry.
Vayne - Extremely strong late game, stealth, tumble to repos, stun if near wall BUT extremely weak early specially to bursty ads (graves/kog/corki ect) needs lots of farm, slow moving, VERY SHORT RANGE. If you are in range as vayne to dps, you are in range of gap closers/ccs/burst mages ect.

Not saying you can't play them but they have very strong drawbacks and typically are not seen in tournament play. Only person i see playing vayne nowadays is Doublelift.

Corki - One of the highest bursts, long range poke, armor shred, true damage, escape/chase tool, Q grants vision for stealthed champs ect. Corki is a really solid AD still, went out of favor when they took away blind form his Q i believe a while back but he's still strong. Not sure if he's been buffed since then, i think vision came in after blind was removed.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:34 PM

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now that you mentioned it, it actually totally changed my thought process now, thanks this is a good explination, i was thinking of buying vayne or cait when i got 6300 IP but i might buy graves or Kog instead.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:40 PM

Yea but we see people play corki when theres better chanps like vayne, or caitlyn to play, idk if thats because of strategy or because the othe team already picked a vayne or cait already.


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Vayne suffers horribly against a Corki in lane, and Corki's AOE-armor shred and damage is off the charts. Plus, you have a better escape tool. Vayne's better the later the game gets, but a competent Corki can absolutely demolish Vayne in lane.

Caitlyn's great in lane because of range and denying capabilities; however, she has no steroid, which impacts DPS quite a bit later on. If Cait doesn't deny the other AD, Cait is so much weaker it's not even funny.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

I laughed. Thanks.


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yea guys thanks, totally makes sense now, i actually bought corki, i have no idea how to build him yet, i gotta go through all those freakin guides and find a good one.... unless anyone has any good suggestions. my first ranged AD champ other than Ashe and Tristana.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:09 PM

Please, atleast this time lets try to keep it on topic, if theres a problem then PM me or something, thats wasent needed. Thx though. Guess ._.

Yea but we see people play corki when theres better chanps like vayne, or caitlyn to play, idk if thats because of strategy or because the othe team already picked a vayne or cait already.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. People don't play fiora etc because they suck compared to tons of other champs. Um, corki sucks? Yeah, you're retarded. SICK level early-mid game raw burst, possibly the best passive of any ADC, a free built in flash, sick poke...list goes on and on

If you think corki is on the lower end of ADC's and fiora is towards the top of junglers/tops, you should probably uninstall
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:13 PM

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. People don't play fiora etc because they suck compared to tons of other champs. Um, corki sucks? Yeah, you're retarded. SICK level early-mid game raw burst, possibly the best passive of any ADC, a free built in flash, sick poke...list goes on and on

If you think corki is on the lower end of ADC's and fiora is towards the top of junglers/tops, you should probably uninstall


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:14 PM

start boots 3, but if you're with soraka, then start dorans blade
early game build: zerks, dorans, dorans, vamp scepter (if with soraka, skip vamp)
mid game build: zerks, dorans, dorans, vamp, IE
late game build: zerks, vamp, IE, PD, (if needed: last whisper, guardian angel, cleanse sash, bloodthirster)
Game usually winding down when i finish those items, zerk vamp IE PD. If you're on a streak or getting focused, get GA. They have armor, get last whisper, if they have suppression / cc get cleanse, if you need to stand and trade/sustain, get BT. BT gives your E sick damage.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 01:45 AM

Aside from some champions being outclassed by others... To bring out a certain champion to a big LAN tournament requires a certain amount of practice beforehand. For example, you can't expect Reginald to pick Gragas in a tournament when he hasn't really been practising him that much beforehand - no matter how good he was before with Gragas.
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 02:15 AM

Dan Dinh used to play Sejuani a lot in competitive games. Nobody tells Dan how to play.

Sejuani certainly has merits, she's often compared to Amumu where she is outclassed; however she is arguably one of the most mobile junglers in the game and has an incredibly annoying skill set. While Fiora on the other hand doesn't really bring anything to the team but damage.
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