Hey, nice guide.
I just have 1 problem, you don't have a guide section in teaching us how to spam his laugh as efficiently as possible.
I need that section!!
Hello i'm know maining singed for about 6 months through Inversedcomposer and your guide . I've managed to reach a 65% winrate on singed but i still can't play the kayle match up .
I start flask 3 health port 1 mana pot (waiting for this one if my jungler doesnt need me ) .
I usually try to use bushes to last hit safely and/or stacks flask to push the wave and spam backs .
I never know when i should try to all in her .
I usually do the tears > rylai boots of swiftness route , any others item route viable vs her ?
"I find that I finish my build extremely quickly when I build Morellonomicon. Also, I always have a mid-game item pile-up where I can buy items but I have 1 less slot because of the Morellonomicon and thus I don't have the space for pieces of Rylai's. What are your thoughts on this?"
I have more info to add about the morello’s route now that i have played enough games to face it's weaknesses.
As for the mid game pile up: usually something along these lines
Tear, Boots, Morello, Flask, Blasting Wand, Amp Tome
or
Tear,Boots,Morello,Flask, Blasting Wand/Amp tome(if not as fed), Giants Belt
Biggest problem is not having the giants belt. Makes it difficult to survive some ganks and some teamfights early on. But you should have a full 750/750 tear though, so that should help by giving 250 max hp.
As I was saying before, the difficulties - I plan to add this into my guide later, but for now, just my thoughts in an unorganized fashion.
The first problem is that going morello’s makes you weak against ganks. The typical rule of thumb is to split push until you are even tanky enough to win fights before you even consider grouping.
The second problem is that morello’s is an INVESTMENT to make your early game stronger. If you think buying this item will not pay off - just build for mid game by going straight up rylais instead of morellos. EX: Singed vs Swain, you get set behind by a gank or 2, and the laning is already super brutal. Getting morellos in this case would be extremely risky because you will lose your lane even harder trying to build it. Also, there is no guarantee that this item will win you your lane. So, build MR and HP if you are losing. But feel free to always build AP against lanes you have control over.
The third problem is that morello’s as a late game item is mediocre. Here are 2 scenarios -
my typical item build late game.
Flask, Tear, Boots(swiftness,tabi,mercs), Morellos, Rylais, Thornmail
I have 6 items here. And my stats cover: HP, Sustain(flask good against poke so i hold onto it.), Boots, CDR + about 160 ap, 100 armor + thornmail passive.
At this point, 160 ap is nothing. So I will sell morellos for Deathcap.
New late game set: Tear, Flask, Boots, Deathcap, Rylais, Thornmail
or, if the enemy team is heavy in HP, just remember pre btork patch - get liandry’s torment.
Tear, Flask, Boots, Liandrys, Rylais, Thornmail.
Then from here, if their ADC is wrecking you, sell flask and work your way towards randuin’s omen.
If their adc is wrecking you even earlier than this stage of the game -
from: Tear, Flask, Boots, Morellos, Rylais, Thornmail
to: you can sell Flask and buy warden’s mail and work your way towards randuin’s omen.
Tear, Warden’s Mail, Boots, Morellos, Rylais, Thornmail
It’s just my choice to hold onto flask because its pretty helpful late game against poke and to have some extra hp/regen running during a teamfight.
I find that I finish my build extremely quickly when I build Morellonomicon. Also, I always have a mid-game item pile-up where I can buy items but I have 1 less slot because of the Morellonomicon and thus I don't have the space for pieces of Rylai's. What are your thoughts on this?
Imo, I dont think there was much I could do as singed that game.
Zac, Vladimir, Amumu, Varus
My main priority was preventing vladimir from reaching the heart of the teamfight. So I left peeling and escaping up to my team to do - afterall, we did have naut. Normally, I would have just ran straight to my ADC and peeled. But my thought primarily in this game is to get rid of vlad.
I'd say the biggest mistake I made this game was at the start. We were ahead, So i figured I could toss their vlad into my team and we could melt him. That didnt happen. Cost us the fight.
Oh well, games like this happen - yolo q. I am Diamond II now though O.O so whatever. Back to DI soon.
yes, that was me haha... That game was so sad. t.t...
vladimir is so scary in teamfights when fed.
The turn around was at 3:00. Although I did die, they used:
1. Vladimir's Ignite + Ult
2. Amumu's Ult
So the following teamfight was then won by a great Pull by nautilus on varus. Bam. Amumu no ult, vlad no ult. GG. Fighting under turret without minions.
That game was so zzz... our naut messed up baron twice.
I just noticed that morello route is more of an expert singed route, so ill have to swap that up. but anyhow, tear/boots/fiendish codex from here, you can finish up morellos or go rylais first.
5 days ago
lol, i just have /laugh binded to my mouse4 aka side mouse button and taunt or dance on the 2nd side mouse button i have depending on my mood.
5 days ago
I just have 1 problem, you don't have a guide section in teaching us how to spam his laugh as efficiently as possible.
I need that section!!
9 days ago
I actually have trouble vs a good Kayle myself - but I have not faced her enough to know exactly what to build.
What does work though is to build Aegis. Dual resistances + hp.
9 days ago
I start flask 3 health port 1 mana pot (waiting for this one if my jungler doesnt need me ) .
I usually try to use bushes to last hit safely and/or stacks flask to push the wave and spam backs .
I never know when i should try to all in her .
I usually do the tears > rylai boots of swiftness route , any others item route viable vs her ?
11 days ago
"I find that I finish my build extremely quickly when I build Morellonomicon. Also, I always have a mid-game item pile-up where I can buy items but I have 1 less slot because of the Morellonomicon and thus I don't have the space for pieces of Rylai's. What are your thoughts on this?"
I have more info to add about the morello’s route now that i have played enough games to face it's weaknesses.
As for the mid game pile up: usually something along these lines
Tear, Boots, Morello, Flask, Blasting Wand, Amp Tome
or
Tear,Boots,Morello,Flask, Blasting Wand/Amp tome(if not as fed), Giants Belt
Biggest problem is not having the giants belt. Makes it difficult to survive some ganks and some teamfights early on. But you should have a full 750/750 tear though, so that should help by giving 250 max hp.
As I was saying before, the difficulties - I plan to add this into my guide later, but for now, just my thoughts in an unorganized fashion.
The first problem is that going morello’s makes you weak against ganks. The typical rule of thumb is to split push until you are even tanky enough to win fights before you even consider grouping.
The second problem is that morello’s is an INVESTMENT to make your early game stronger. If you think buying this item will not pay off - just build for mid game by going straight up rylais instead of morellos. EX: Singed vs Swain, you get set behind by a gank or 2, and the laning is already super brutal. Getting morellos in this case would be extremely risky because you will lose your lane even harder trying to build it. Also, there is no guarantee that this item will win you your lane. So, build MR and HP if you are losing. But feel free to always build AP against lanes you have control over.
The third problem is that morello’s as a late game item is mediocre. Here are 2 scenarios -
my typical item build late game.
Flask, Tear, Boots(swiftness,tabi,mercs), Morellos, Rylais, Thornmail
I have 6 items here. And my stats cover: HP, Sustain(flask good against poke so i hold onto it.), Boots, CDR + about 160 ap, 100 armor + thornmail passive.
At this point, 160 ap is nothing. So I will sell morellos for Deathcap.
New late game set: Tear, Flask, Boots, Deathcap, Rylais, Thornmail
or, if the enemy team is heavy in HP, just remember pre btork patch - get liandry’s torment.
Tear, Flask, Boots, Liandrys, Rylais, Thornmail.
Then from here, if their ADC is wrecking you, sell flask and work your way towards randuin’s omen.
If their adc is wrecking you even earlier than this stage of the game -
from: Tear, Flask, Boots, Morellos, Rylais, Thornmail
to: you can sell Flask and buy warden’s mail and work your way towards randuin’s omen.
Tear, Warden’s Mail, Boots, Morellos, Rylais, Thornmail
It’s just my choice to hold onto flask because its pretty helpful late game against poke and to have some extra hp/regen running during a teamfight.
11 days ago
19 days ago
Imo, I dont think there was much I could do as singed that game.
Zac, Vladimir, Amumu, Varus
My main priority was preventing vladimir from reaching the heart of the teamfight. So I left peeling and escaping up to my team to do - afterall, we did have naut. Normally, I would have just ran straight to my ADC and peeled. But my thought primarily in this game is to get rid of vlad.
I'd say the biggest mistake I made this game was at the start. We were ahead, So i figured I could toss their vlad into my team and we could melt him. That didnt happen. Cost us the fight.
Oh well, games like this happen - yolo q. I am Diamond II now though O.O so whatever. Back to DI soon.
19 days ago
yes, that was me haha... That game was so sad. t.t...
vladimir is so scary in teamfights when fed.
The turn around was at 3:00. Although I did die, they used:
1. Vladimir's Ignite + Ult
2. Amumu's Ult
So the following teamfight was then won by a great Pull by nautilus on varus. Bam. Amumu no ult, vlad no ult. GG. Fighting under turret without minions.
That game was so zzz... our naut messed up baron twice.
19 days ago
Are you Singed in that video?
21 days ago
I just noticed that morello route is more of an expert singed route, so ill have to swap that up. but anyhow, tear/boots/fiendish codex from here, you can finish up morellos or go rylais first.